Podcast: Going Postal and Going Local - It’s Our Money with Ellen Brown

It's Our Money with Ellen Brown


About 25% of Americans don’t have access to basic banking services such as check cashing and money transfers, often forcing them to rely on expensive charges from street corner profiteers who fill the void. While local banks aren’t always available, post offices are, and they could fill this banking void if only the Congress would allow it.

We talk with Katherine Isaac of the American Postal Workers Union about a national campaign to bring back postal banking. Later, Ellen talks with the founder of Cooperation Humboldt, David Cobb, about an effort to model a new type of local economy that leaves no one out. And Walt talks with Rhode Island’s former Secretary of State Matt Brown -- the latest candidate to run for a governorship on a public banking platform.

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Listen in: The Public Banking Movement is Taking Off in the U.S.

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Former PBI Chair Walt McRee joins Margaret Flowers, MD and Keven Zeese on their Clearing the Fog podcast show to discuss the Public Banking movement.

“Money moves the world. Banking moves money.” — Walt McRee

“Public Banks exist around the world. They are used to hold public dollars, such as taxes and fees, to keep the money local so it serves the public interest, instead of giving it to Wall Street banks who charge high fees and interest rates. There is only one public bank so far in the United States, the Bank of North Dakota. It has been in existence for almost 100 years. Now, thanks to the work of the Public Banking Institute, there is a vibrant movement to create more public banks in the U.S. at the city and state level. We speak with Walt McRee and John Comerford about the reasons to support public banks, how they would serve people instead of Wall Street profits and current efforts across the country.”

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Alaska legislature submits bill to create a state bank


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The state of Alaska joins Michigan and New Jersey in the growing circle of states formally working to establish a Public Bank as Rep Chris Tuck and Rep Scott Kawasaki introduce HB 376. The bill has been referred to the Labor and Commerce, and Finance Committees.

A compelling press release published in Alaska Business magazine quotes the co-sponsors:

Rep. Kawasaki:

A state bank would offer Alaskans new opportunities to invest in themselves. Too many Alaskans who have the dream, desire and drive are denied bank loans and cannot access credit. This bank can help Alaskans build their own local business.”

Rep. Tuck:

A state bank will allow us to control our own economic destiny by investing in industrial development to create value-added industries from our resources. This will create physical wealth for our state and insulate us from the swings of the banking markets, which can hinder us from necessary development.”

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St Louis joins the list of major cities looking to create a Public Bank

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St Louis City Hall photo courtesy the Clayton Times


Board of Alderman President Louis Reed introduced a resolution Mar 9 to create a Task Force to study how a Public Bank of St Louis could address some of the city’s most pressing needs, including affordable housing, small business growth and financing for municipal projects.

The Clayton Times quotes Alderman Reed:

“When you look at the mass unbanked population, when you look at the challenges that people have with getting and receiving loans, and also being able to fund developments and things of that nature throughout the city, particularly in some of our more challenged neighborhoods, I believe there’s some benefit to looking at how we leverage our tax dollars.

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The War on the Post Office: Postal Banking to the Rescue


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One model of Public Banking — postal banking — would be able to service an abandoned market of the unbanked and underbanked, all while rescuing the USPS from a manufactured crisis and protecting it from the vultures trying to force its privatization.

PBI Chair Ellen Brown writes in her latest article in TruthDig that the USPS has been successfully self funded throughout its long history, but it’s now struggling to stay afloat, due to a sabotaging congressional mandate that requires the USPS to prefund healthcare for its workers 75 years into the future:

“No other entity, public or private, has the burden of funding multiple generations of employees yet unborn. ... Meanwhile, the need for postal banking is present and growing.  … The average underserved household spends $2,412 annually – nearly 10% of gross income – in fees and interest for non-bank financial services. More than 30,000 post offices peppered across the country could service these needs.

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Why banking needs to be treated as a public utility

State Bank of India

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Public Banks have strong footholds around the world. In India they hold 70 percent market share. As global interests push to privatize India's Public Banks, a recent article in Economic Times argues that how we view the nature of banking is the central question — and how we answer it has direct relevance to banking in the US and globally.

“In simple terms, are banks meant to be turbo-charged return on equity (ROE) machines, driving innovation, risk-taking and high returns for shareholders? Or should they be public utilities meant to provide low-risk plumbing for the real economy, not blowing up, and if they do, not presenting catastrophic outcomes for society? The question has always been around banking, but the question has become centre-of-plate since the financial crisis in 2008. At the core is the realisation that banking losses, irrespective of the nature of ownership, is a public liability.”

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VIDEO: “Plan V” a Vermont Public Bank

A new video by Vermont Independent and Vermonters for a New Economy features many local advocates including Gwendolyn Hallsmith, Rep Valerie Fraser, and Henry Jacqz to explain why a Vermont Public Bank is a vital need. It’s full of great quotes and is part of a larger documentary film project by Rob Williams.

“The benefits for issuing money go to private institutions and are largely responsible for the growing gap in income inequality.” — Gwen Hallsmith

“My tax money goes to big banks and those big banks can use it for what they choose. One of those choices that TD Bank is making is to invest in fossil fuel industry and fossil fuel infrastructure, which is destroying the environment, undermining indigenous culture.” — Rep. Brian Cina

“Private banks do not serve the people. And in fact sometimes do the opposite.” — Jim Hogue, historian

“If we can work within the system by borrowing money at a fraction of what we borrow it at now, that would really be the biggest help.” — Rep Valerie Fraser

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City of Seattle releases RFP for Public Bank Feasibility Study



Seattle has made their effort to create a Public Bank official by issuing a request for proposals for a Seattle Public Bank feasibility study. The city expects the final report to be submitted by August 1, 2018. Full RFP text here.

For more information and contact details, click here.

Timeline for RFP below: 

Schedule of Events  Date/Time
Solicitation Release 2/26/2018
Deadline for Questions  3/12/2018 5:00 PM PST
Response Deadline  3/19/2018 5:00 PM PST
Announcement of Successful Proposer(s)  3/27/2018 5:00 PM PST
Anticipated Negotiation Schedule  3/28/2018 – 4/9/2018
Contract Execution  4/10/2018 5:00 PM PST

Big banks got huge tax cuts, then hiked states' and cities' interest rates


US bank holdings of municipal bonds and loans.


The monster banks get monster tax cuts … then turn around and hike interest rates for states and cities. The hikes could translate into millions of dollars of extra costs for cash-strapped municipalities.

Creating Public Banks would cut these middlemen — along with the enormous soaring drain of interest payments and fees — out of public budgets. 


“It takes away from money that would help the state’s reserve, or it takes away from money the state may appropriate for other statewide public purposes,” said David Erdman, the capital finance director for Wisconsin, whose payments on a $279 million loan will jump by about $750,000 next year.

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Top cannabis regulator says Massachusetts should create a state Public Bank


Cannabis Control Commission chairman Steve Hoffman. Photo courtesy the Boston Globe


Recreational pot sales are scheduled to begin in July in Massachusetts, and as yet, there are no banking services for the industry predicted to have $1 billion in sales by 2020. Cannabis Control Commission chairman Steve Hoffman said in the Boston Globe, “There’s a high degree of urgency, so it’s something we need to start talking about.”

Hoffman suggests the state should consider creating a state-run bank. That adds Massachusetts to the list of states — including California and Ohio — considering Public Banking due to the urgent needs of the legalized marijuana industry.

Hoffman continued:

“Unfortunately, it’s a real possibility that the recreational industry won’t have access to any banking services. We’re working as hard as we can to preempt that, but we can’t force any bank or credit union to service this industry.”

PBI Board member Nichoe Lichen said in a related American Banker article:

“There are many different uses or possible purposes for a public bank, and pot has been identified by some states as a possible focus for a public bank. Cannabis brings about a sense of urgency to the need to be able to deposit funds somewhere safely.”

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